civic 2002 si

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http://autos.yahoo.com/used-cars/overview?sortcol=price&sortdir=up&modelyearub=2005&modelyearlb=2002&askpriceub=any&askpricelb=any&deliverymileageub=any&deliverymileagelb=any&location=Dallas%2C+TX+75211&listingtype=used&model=civic&make=honda&distance=50&fa=mys&es=1

http://autos.yahoo.com/used-cars/honda-civic-cars137741039;_ylt=AsJ_nNeReGeV1wLRDf6nacn0WI54;_ylv=3?sortcol=price&sortdir=up&start=16&modelyearub=2005&modelyearlb=2002&askpriceub=any&askpricelb=any&deliverymileageub=any&deliverymileagelb=any&location=Dallas%2C+TX+75211&listingtype=used&model=civic&make=honda&distance=50

I am trying to disscuss about this car. Anyone who has a google account can request me and join to the table.

I am looking for some civic experts?

I have taken some pictures of the car. This is the link to the book value of this car from my estimation. Tell me what do you think? is it a good price or not?

This is the link to Kelly Blue Book Value of this car.

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/PricingReport.aspx?WebCategoryId=35&YearId=2002&Mileage=85500&VehicleClass=UsedCar&ManufacturerId=18&ModelId=123&PriceType=Private+Party&VehicleId=4174&SelectionHistory=4174%7c31464%7c33023%7c0%7c0%7c161834%7ctrue%7c161841%7ctrue%7c161853%7ctrue%7c161912%7ctrue%7c161931%7ctrue%7c161937%7ctrue%7c161931%7ctrue%7c161937%7ctrue%7c161931%7ctrue%7c161937%7ctrue%7c161931%7ctrue%7c161937%7ctrue%7c161931%7ctrue%7c161964%7ctrue%7c161953%7ctrue%7c161964%7ctrue%7c161964%7cfalse%7c161964%7ctrue&Condition=Fair&QuizConditions=

The dealer offered me a final price (maybe lower): 6,100

KBB Fair Condition: $6,195

Vehicle Highlights

Mileage:          85,500

Engine:            4-Cyl. 2.0L VTEC

Transmission:          5 Speed Manual

Drivetrain:          FWD

Selected Equipment Change Equipment

Standard

Air Conditioning    AM/FM Stereo    Dual Front Air Bags

Power Steering    Single Compact Disc    ABS (4-Wheel)

Optional

Power Windows    Cruise Control    Sun Roof

Power Door Locks    Power Seat    Premium Wheels

Blue Book Private Party Value

Private Party Value is what a buyer can expect to pay when buying a used car from a private party. The Private Party Value assumes the vehicle is sold “As Is” and carries no warranty (other than the continuing factory warranty). The final sale price may vary depending on the vehicle’s actual condition and local market conditions. This value may also be used to derive Fair Market Value for insurance and vehicle donation purposes.

Vehicle Condition Ratings

Check Vehicle Title History

Excellent

$7,420

Looks new, is in excellent mechanical condition and needs no reconditioning.

Never had any paint or body work and is free of rust.

Clean title history and will pass a smog and safety inspection.

Engine compartment is clean, with no fluid leaks and is free of any wear or visible defects.

Complete and verifiable service records.

Less than 5% of all used vehicles fall into this category.

Good

$6,895

Free of any major defects.

Clean title history, the paints, body, and interior have only minor (if any) blemishes, and there are no major mechanical problems.

Little or no rust on this vehicle.

Tires match and have substantial tread wear left.

A “good” vehicle will need some reconditioning to be sold at retail.

Most consumer owned vehicles fall into this category.

Fair

$6,195

Some mechanical or cosmetic defects and needs servicing but is still in reasonable running condition.

Clean title history, the paint, body and/or interior need work performed by a professional.

Tires may need to be replaced.

There may be some repairable rust damage.

Poor

N/A

Severe mechanical and/or cosmetic defects and is in poor running condition.

May have problems that cannot be readily fixed such as a damaged frame or a rusted-through body.

Branded title (salvage, flood, etc.) or unsubstantiated mileage.

Kelley Blue Book does not attempt to report a value on a “poor” vehicle because the value of these vehicles varies greatly. A vehicle in poor condition may require an independent appraisal to determine its value.

* Florida 9/21/2009

There are some pictures I just took today and now they are up on the internet.

The Conspiracy

This is the guy who was selling the car today and I realized that he did know much about the car. He had been doing car dealing for living. I guess he can trade for some fools who does not know much about cars. However, he is not a good recommendation to ask related questions from this car that I was trying to buy. He seems like a nice person but he definitely did not do much homework to sell this car. After a long time discussion about what I thought to the condition of this civic, he marked down price to $6100. Apparently, he does not know much about this car and blindly give false information about the fuel economy. He has no idea how this car runs and goes. Anyway, I just found out this car is from a car lot and had been just purchased a few days ago from a dealer auction. He owner did not have the title on hand because he just purchased from the auction. It needed to wait for a few weeks until they actually got the title.

The rim is almost perfect except the edge. Its a noticeable red spot on the edge.

The cap for the tire is missing one, I was asking where were the cap and he told me it was gone and it only took $2 to get them replaced.

 

I think the light on the right has been switched or replace from another civic si and the bumper as well. I totally believed that this car has been repaired before and I could tell the color did not completely matched. The guy insist that had a clean title but he was just saying and promised to me. So do I just have to believe him based on what he said. My previous 98 honda civic dx got an accidence before the dealer fixed it and changed the side fender and both of the front head lights. Look at this car, both head lights are not the same from as original. This is visible by just seeing the color on the lights. I instantly notified that the left light remained as the original and the right one has been changed.

This is not scratch. This is so apparent. I believe it is a collision caused by other vehicles. It could be a motorcycle????

The tire cap is missing again. There are some minor rust on the break edge which is normal to all the cars. I again confirm this car has a fair condition.

As you can see, at least the right side fender has been switch and there are minor spots on the hood. no visible but I can tell the car has been driven hard before. I could see the natural damage caused by the wind and small rocks. Under the hood, everything is fine except the car has not been filled with windshield fluid and and done much maintenance.???

This vin number is SHHEP33562U303734

There are some more:

Rust on the break.. see. it proof that this car is not garge keep.

 

 

 

 

 

Testing:

Since this is my first time testing the civic si. I really had no experience from the performance. At least I can tell a few things. The car is kinda heavy (feeling) because the steering wheel is kinda hard to turn. The acceleration is awesome when you press the gas all the way hard and the short shifting is well too. Again, there is no trouble to get on a highway and fly. AC, remote key lock, sunroof, radio, window lock, window controlling, and cruise controlling are good and I have no complaint at all. However, the only thing I havent tested is the head lights and the tail lights. I dont know how it works out since its day time.